I don't get your meaning, [says the man sharply.] There is never a time I can tell you that dreams make sense. They have a habit of adding more questions into the mix, not the reverse. And that is the shell you want to crack!

[A low breath on the line. It is not quite a sigh, though it is very near to one.]

But if it is the Turtle you are after -- [Oho, someone's been reading and listening in on the other public conversations] -- I notice he is receptive enough to direct questions. What do you need your volunteers for?