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Tony Stark ([personal profile] manofiron) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2013-07-29 10:01 am

Video;

[ The video begins with a dark-haired man centered in the middle of the frame. He’s got dark eyes, a precisely cut goatee, and hair that’s a little too styled to be naturally that neat. There isn’t a lot to see beyond his chin, he’s sitting too close to the camera, but what can be seen looks vaguely like a shirt of shiny red metal.

His brow knits almost immediately after the feed starts recording, his expression edging toward disbelief as his lips twist into a mild frown. ]


Look. I get it. In a time of crisis, rationing’s necessary to keep resources moving in the right direction. Perfectly understandable. You guys needed to save your turtle. What responsible citizen wouldn’t do their part for that noble cause?

[ There’s a slight hint f sarcasm creeping into his voice, as though he’s heard the whole turtle spiel already and not only hasn’t been impressed, but also doesn’t really buy it either. Not even after having spent half a day scouring the network for information about what’s really going on here before making this video. ]

But really? Twenty bucks?

[ The low, indistinct murmur of another voice can be heard, though what it’s saying and who it belongs to is anyone’s guess. Whatever it says, it’s enough to make the man roll his eyes. ]

Juulan. Whatever. Doesn’t matter. The point[ Whether he’s talking to the camera or the unidentified voice is unclear. ] — is that it isn’t enough for a day, let alone the entire bogus adventure.

[ It isn’t so much the way he looks at the camera – his eyes have never left it – but the change of his tone, less querulous and more curious, that indicates that he’s talking to whoever’s on the other end of the console. ]

So really. Turtle propaganda aside. What’s a guy gotta do to get some decent money around here? Sell his organs? Hit the street corners? Scrub barnacles off the bottom of the turtle? What?
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-07-31 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[That's not at all what he's expecting, but somehow he'd forgotten in the time he hadn't seen him how impossible it is to keep Tony on topic. He's no less exasperated, but he's a bit tolerantly amused as he points out,] It's lasted me several thousand miles and across dimensions without dying. It's not going to stroke out.

Behind you. [The table behind him has a toolbox on it, much less beat up than the laptop because Bruce had gotten it here. It's a fairly elaborate one, not large but packed with drawers and just as organized as the rest of the lab-- not obsessively, but perfunctorily.] Just don't lose my files. [It's almost a mild joke, the likelihood of Tony losing anyone's files is so small.

He goes back to poking at the suit, making mental notes as he goes.]
Metaphysical as in accessing other planes of existence.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-01 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
[He's about to open his mouth to blithely tell him to go crazy on it, and then rethinks the wisdom of that decision, and says,] As long as I don't open it to my own AI, do what you want. [Bruce is a simple soul at heart and really was perfectly happy with what he'd had already, but if Tony wants to upgrade it then far be it from him to refuse. He's hardly immune to the lure of fancy tech.

He isn't, however, totally under its sway, as he proves by glancing up in visible, if reluctant, interest at those words. Bruce steps away from the Iron Man, taking his glasses off again and signifying his temporary cessation in examining it, though he holds them loosely in his hand. As interested as he is, there's more pressing things at hand, and Bruce doesn't let himself be distracted.]


Dr. Foster mentioned Selvig, but I don't know any of that. Well, I can guess you don't get along with SHIELD. [Tony Stark and a secret government organization trying to control his actions? Bruce knows how well that'd gone over with Congress, and that was far from secret.] I was planning on asking you to help, so, [a slight half-shrug, taking another step over to lean against the bench and watch Tony work.]

The Tesseract was with the, uh, alien invasion? If you're mentioning Odin... [Bruce's understanding of the situation is hazy, but he knows it involves alien gods-- Thor and Loki, one good and one very, very likely to piss him off-- and he might be terrible with mythology but he's not so terrible that he can't recognize Odin by name.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-01 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[If he knows it's going to get him worked up, why is he doing it? That's the question Bruce would ask if he weren't oblivious to the machinations going on under his nose.

He notices a strange quirk of a reaction for half a second, but before he can identify it it's gone, and Tony's launching into another explanatory ramble. Bruce raises an eyebrow at him, but listens, storing the information away neatly in his mind.]
I've met Loki, [he contributes, tone even.] He was here for a while. We didn't get along either.

[It has the ring of a vast understatement to it.]

I'll have to get the full story sometime, but right now we need to, go over everything. With the timelines and the... doubles. You're still hung up about it, aren't you? [That's Bruce's version of being comforting and saying that he's open to working it out if he wants. But he can tell from that evasion and awkwardness around talking about it that Tony's seemingly innocent question earlier about whether he knows he's not the same guy is at all over.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
No, he was from before that, too, [he feels compelled to clarify, though it's off track from what he really wants to discuss.] We actually... didn't know each other at first. [There's a visible and audible grimace as Bruce admits that, what in hindsight had been embarrassingly sitcom of them, to interact without knowing each other's identity. It was the sort of thing that could only happen here, and it'd ended predictably badly, with the eventual discovery of who that was happening only later.

It's on the tip of his tongue to say It isn't a personal problem? but he decides that's probably too pointed, not the tone he wants to set. He just folds his arms and leans back and watches him sidelong, giving him space.]


No. I haven't met any. [From the way he says it, it's clear he doesn't think that's a hardship.] But I've had a lot of people recognize me. Apparently I'm on a lot of other worlds, and I'm... [He corrects himself,] Not me is popular. I'm not as much.

[Not that Bruce wants to be popular. He doesn't. But the Hulk overtaking him in terms of being recognizable leaves a sour taste in his mouth.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Why would you be told-- no, nevermind, I don't actually want an answer to that question. [Exasperation seems to be his default state with Tony. Bruce rolls his eyes subtly, determined to get them back on track with the conversation.]

Will you focus for a minute? We need to go over this. I'm saying that a lot of people are going to recognize you. Not because you're famous. Because they know you, personally. Have you met the other... you, yet?

[Might as well stop pulling his punches and get right down to it.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
[He doesn't miss that stress on the word talked at all, with him still trying to figure out what's up with Tony.]

True, [he says mildly.] The things they know about me can be pretty... off. [Namely all the positive things about the Hulk are still throwing him through a loop.]

But some of them know me me. Like you. Just because we haven't met yet back home doesn't change that. [It's a quiet challenge to his logic, without dragging the elephant in the room into the open.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[He has a point on experiences changing people, but Bruce isn't too concerned in this instance. From the way they'd smoothly dropped into conversation already, they're clearly neither of them all that different from what the other's expecting. And the details of their memories are immaterial in the face of that, when there were no major differences to account for between them.

He ignores this further attempt at diversion, unruffled.]
So you're saying you do this for just anyone, [he says pointedly.] Show up immediately when you arrive and fix their ailing laptop and let them look at the armor. Since you don't really know me.

[Bruce, obviously, isn't taking this at all personally. If that is the answer then it won't bother him, but truth is, he knows it isn't. He knows Tony is far more private and guarded a person than most people, and certainly the public in general, gives him credit for. And just in case that's too subtle for him, he tacks on,] Because that's not really how I'm approaching it.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[Being casually told he's the exception to the rule-- the positive exception, as in, it's uncommon for Tony to actually be friends with someone-- is startling. Bruce had more or less already known it, and over the past few months come to terms with the idea that he has friends, but it still wasn't something he was entirely comfortable with. And he definitely didn't take it for granted.]

Thank you, but, uh, you really don't have to, [he responds, equal parts gratitude and protest.] And what I'm getting at is that I think I do know you. Well enough to let you modify my most important personal possession when you feel like it, anyway.

[Bruce shakes his head, thinking maybe he should just give this up and let Tony stew in whatever convoluted problems he's made up for himself now, if this doesn't make his point.

He remembers when he'd tried to tell him that he appreciated having him around at his birthday, and it'd gotten him practically choking on his drink at an ill timed moment. Bruce isn't expecting this to go much better. But he still says,]
It's just nice to have you here.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
[There's a lot of things Bruce could say to this, a lot of different reasons or justifications for why he likes having him around. Why he in particular is valuable to him, distinct from every other Tony Stark he's met. The truth is, they've only known each other for one conversation, less than an hour. Most of the reasons Bruce has to offer are ones that, push come to shove, don't apply to him. Reasons that he learned from one of the others, that he's applying by extension here.

He knows instinctively that's not what Tony wants to hear. Instead, he unfolds his arms, straightening up and opening his posture toward him as he stands and watches him put the tools away.]


You know me, [he says simply. Taking on a wry, self-mocking tenor, he goes on,] You know me, and apparently that's enough to be friends. That doesn't really happen very often.

[There's not a trace of self-pity; it's a plain fact. A statement on how rarely Bruce gets to be honest with anyone in his life, which is almost never before coming here, and since then not that often either.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's difficult not to take issue with practically every word he's just said. The first part flagrantly misses the point-- that Bruce doesn't want people to know him, and he's sure that if he did let them, he'd make more friends. There's nothing that heinous or off-putting about him in regular life, and he's not so far gone into his guilt and self-loathing that he thinks that. But he doesn't want them. Tony is an exception and a deliberately granted one.

The idea that he's dependable can only be met with laughable disbelief, given how little control he has over just about any facet of his life. But the thing that takes him from vaguely frustrated disagreement and edging toward incensed is learning that he has a fanclub.]


I have a what? [spills out of him before he can censor it. Bruce immediately has to take a breath, raise a hand to his face and hide it for a moment. When it lowers, he's distinctly unhappy.] You don't mean I have a fanclub. You mean he does. That's not me, [he asserts, almost daring him to disagree.]

Aside from how no one should be-- be encouraging what he does, I don't want to be popular. Or for anyone to know me. [He'd intended to say that more diplomatically, but now he doesn't bother.]

You're some, I don't know, some weird exception. Not the other universe versions of you, just you. I'm not going to argue over what exact set of memories you have. [That's so immaterial, comparatively. And just like everyone else who's tried to tell him about what he's like on other worlds has found out, it provokes Bruce into abandoning all sense of delicacy and just saying straight out what his point is. Nothing about hearing all the myriad and varied ways his life is even worse in other places inspires his sense of tact.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-04 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
[There it is. That's more of the argument Bruce had been looking for. He knew Tony was suppressing something, and it was never going to be resolved if he kept it pushed down. Bruce had had that little fact of life thrown in his face over and over until he'd finally learned the lesson, himself-- that you'll never feel differently about something if you always keep it hidden.

So he did somewhat want an argument, because he can handle it, and he's not afraid of Tony or of the consequences. He's relatively certain that, however he feels about the Hulk, Tony won't provoke him into changing, and this isn't so personal a topic that Bruce thinks he'd lose control just from discussing it.

Although it is, still, pretty personal. To him, too. He'd known if not explicitly, then at least had managed to piece together, that the Hulk had saved Tony's life-- hearing it out loud is a nice confirmation. But the cloning upsets him, and he gets why this isn't easy to accept.]


That's how cloning works. And I have some theories about how it works here. But the original's not there, [Bruce says bluntly, standing in front of him and forcing him to meet his eyes directly. He uses what is major, significant information almost as a weapon, throwing it out.] We're clones, but the original isn't back there, living our lives. It's just us. Here.

[The previous Tony Stark is probably a dead clone body resting somewhere beneath the turtle shell, wherever their cloning facilities are now. With the tanks screwed in like light bulbs, as Costigan had said. Part of him is still mourning for him, because although he does think that this is more or less the same person in front of him now, this Tony is right-- he's not exactly the same. And there's probably a corpse somewhere that used to be his friend, and it makes Bruce more combative on this subject than he would be otherwise.]
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-04 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No, [he says harshly, feeling his own sense of horror at the reality of their situation abruptly gripping him, too. Betty. He can't believe that Betty is dead because she doesn't exist here.] We don't know that. We don't know anything but what I've told you.

[He takes two quick steps around Tony to see his face again, hand automatically reaching out to take hold of his upper arm, bracing.]

Look at me. Whatever this is, it isn't a joke. And we can find answers. [If anyone can find answers, it's the two of them. Bruce searches his eyes, trying to impart the resolution on him that he feels. Giving him something to do is, he thinks, the best answer to the listless panic that is so easy to fall under given the magnitude of the situation.]

I've already found some. Clues. You can help me.
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[personal profile] angermanaging 2013-08-04 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's painful how well he can recognize that hopelessness in him from experiencing it himself, and Bruce isn't about to put up with it if he doesn't have to.]

You think I don't ask myself what I am on a, a daily basis? [There's an echo of that bitter humor in there, too, understanding even as his hand tightens on his arm.] Are you going to help me or not?

[He's not going to play this game where he lists out his positive traits for him. Tony should be well aware of how much he can accomplish when he sets his mind to it, of how incredible his capabilities are. Bruce isn't here to prop up his ego. Tony already knows that, and he doesn't have much patience for using identity issues as a stalling tactic. Bruce is in the same mess as he is, the same boat, and has moreover been even deeper into questioning who and what he is for the past decade.

He demands a firmer answer than that, a commitment, before he'll let this go.]

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