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✧Zatanna Zatara✧ ([personal profile] backwordscompatible) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2017-04-27 08:49 pm

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[Greetings and Salutations, fellow turtle-dwellers! Some may have noticed Zatanna's silence until now regarding certain events, but today, she greets the open console network with an unusually contemplative look. Eyes still slightly turned upward, arms folded over her chest, she leans back into her chair and allows herself a deep breath before sitting up and forcing the best attempt at a diplomatic smile she could muster.]

I had a very interesting conversation recently with Odyni.

This isn't really something we bring up much...mostly because there's no reason to...but the Welcome Center? Jokes aside, it hasn't just been running on my charm and magic all these years. Once upon a time, we were funded by the Emperor.  After they both died, we struck up a deal with Aroyan, who was cool enough to vouch for us on behalf of the Merchant's Guild and help keep us going. Then after he was gone, Odyni made the choice to keep that relationship open.  Which she really didn't have to do, so I've always been pretty grateful to her for that.

[Little backstory for everyone. The more you know ==✰]

There's been some ongoing talk about these new Guilds forming, which makes sense, but for a while, I wasn't exactly sure what that meant for us.  I mean, our job is mainly to help newcomers adjust to life in Keelai.  Help out with any questions people might have about things.  Give directions.  Provide resources.  That sort of thing.  So it made sense that a bunch of people have already assumed we'd just sign up for the Foreigners' Guild.  Except if we did that, I wasn't sure how it would affect our funding.

But here's the thing: Odyni is still willing to help, even if we did.  Which I think is great news on a bunch of levels, because it means we can all keep playing nice with one another even if we're in different Guilds.   I mean--and these are her words, not mine--she did mention something about liking us to have a "preferential relationship" between the two Guilds, keep communications open, that sort of thing.   Which I don't think sounds too unreasonable, considering.  That was the only string attached.

What do you guys think?
redlightgreenlight: (calm 2)

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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Seeing as I will not be a member of the Foreigner's Guild, perhaps my two cents should be taken lightly, but I do not think that showing higher preference for one guild over another is a good idea.

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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I do.

[Nothing was black and white]

Her wording is what bothers me. Having a working relationship is different from a 'preferential' relationship. It sounds to me like she expects you to side with her over over another guild should an issue arise.

[And that was a problem]

Or to give her guild special consideration that you wouldn't give another guild. We need to be careful with our power.
redlightgreenlight: (expressionless)

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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
I know. I never thought you one to jump into something without thinking it through, Zatanna.

[Zatanna was one of the few foreigners whose judgement she felt she could rely on on a mostly permanent basis.]

Attachments make people vulnerable and unpredictable, just because she doesn't want to risk it, doesn't mean that she won't.
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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
That is true, but we are acting as individuals, not as a group.

[Valdis hesitated at the question, not really wanting to answer it.]

Experience.
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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I never said they made you weak.

[Quite the opposite in fact, as long as those people were there.]

Just vulnerable. People act irrationally when it comes to those they care about.
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[personal profile] redlightgreenlight 2017-04-28 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
True.

[But even that was predictable to a point]

Well, whatever you decide, I'm sure it will turn out just fine.
commandandcontrol: (neck scratch)

[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-04-28 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
[ Hooray!! That answers several questions she'd been meaning to ask, especially the part about funding the welcome center.

BUT, it also complicated her own, personal plans because... well, it sounded like Zatanna was the contact person between the Welcome Center and Odyni. So what role did that leave for Sonja exactly in this guild? ]


If the Welcome Center being beholden a bit to the Merchant Guild is the cost of them funding it, then that's just the way it is. Honestly, keeping positive relationships with all the guilds seems to be ideal. The system isn't really about competition, its about organization.

[ Actually... well, Rosyn had asked if there was anything she could do for her. Maybe there was. ]

So... as the person that kind of is the Welcome Center, does that mean you'll be taking on a leadership position in the Foreigner's Guild?
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[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-04-28 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Right. Sorry. It's just... the lack of hierarchy is kind of... bugging me.

[ She disliked all this ambiguity, but she also didn't want to step on toes. ]

I haven't really gotten any feedback on my Foreigner's Guild ideas, which leaves me thinking there's not really any interest in them at all... and since you and Jack have the Welcome Center running so smoothly, and it's already beholden to the Merchant's guild...

Well, it really questions what purpose the Foreigner's Guild has at all, except as a default checkmark on paperwork for newcomers, before they pick something else.
commandandcontrol: (done)

[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-04-28 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
[ Frowny face. Why do we need air or food or sleep??? Order is important. Even if they decided to do something like Devin suggested, with a collection of peers, there needed to be a charter to determine how things worked. ]

Is it 'stewing' or 'ignoring'?

[ UGH, that was too hard a stance, Sonja. Stop defaulting to being so combative. ]

Sorry, I- [ Deep breath. Her plans were falling apart before they even started, and it was disheartening to say the least. ] I wanted it to have a purpose. Is that so wrong?
commandandcontrol: (everything is terrible)

[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-04-28 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't blaming others!

[ Dot dot dot. ]

Mostly.

[ Sigh. ]
commandandcontrol: (thinking)

[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-04-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
[ Because she wouldn't be at the top of those ones >:[ ]

It's not a bad suggestion...
commandandcontrol: (nervous)

[personal profile] commandandcontrol 2017-05-02 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I will, thank you.

[ Mumble mumble unasked for wisdom mumble. ]