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Yaha ([personal profile] barebacking) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2013-09-13 10:12 pm

VOICE.

An odd question, I am sure, but I wonder...

I thought of the ghosts and the waters, and the idea that death could be just around the corner. That is that those of us that are just about to slip into that darkness may one day wake up to be choking on our own blood.

Forgive me for such a ... unfortunate image, but my point is ... how many of you have someone who you are close to? How many can say that you have met someone who makes your life worth it all, even if death may be so close? Even if this may all just be a dream?

This need not be romantic, I suppose, but friendship as well.

After all, sometimes it is friendship that can save a life, too, right?
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-14 05:35 am (UTC)(link)

[Have a thoughtful, though not quite so solemn as usual Enjolras on your screen!]

So it can do that. It is thanks to friends, I think, that I am still here on the turtle after things were rough so lately. My...

[What DOES he call Combeferre? The term 'boyfriend' feels so juvenile, and 'lover' is not exactly true. 'Parner' has an ambiguity to it that feels like a lie...]

...the man I love and who loves me was one who saved me here, but you are right that there are others. My other friends who've come here from my world... We died together there and here they've saved me from myself if I can give an example without sounding inane
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-14 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it is this place itself which changed me, somehow, perhaps by giving me the chance. It's strange to think I found it here, after our deaths, but I can hardly question when so far it's done no harm to anything I stand for here.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-14 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Quite so. And I intend to do my best at improving things for foreigners here for as long as I have but also to embrace the things I could not have in life. It is a good thing, truly.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-15 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
There IS a certain madness to it, still, and I admit the method and the reason baffle me. If I had been at home in the midst of my lifetime and its work, it would feel far worse but there are so many THAT has happened to.

Happy as I am personally, it bothers me, I do admit ,that others are here quite against their will when they have something to return to at home. One would wish that the power that brings us here could offer us the choice of coming, first of all.

I think I would have taken it still, had it been properly explained if I knew what it meant.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-15 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course they do not. I would not imagine they did. And that is where the problem lies. There's no forgiveness needed when you speak the truth.

[Enjolras does not like the truth, but denying unpleasantries never got anyone anything before, and he does not think it is about to now.]

What bothers me even more than the fact that it is happening though, is that so many of us simply accept it. In the most general of terms, of course.

We had a king who did the same as in your world at home and the people managed to put an end to his reign but the Parliament gave us another in his place. Most of what our new "king" and our leaders did only made the divides between the people worse, and they had very little chance of any sort of determination.

But of course we were upset with such things, and continued to be. There was nothing else to be but upset, and to fight it then. Though I speak of men instead, I think it would be difficult for me not to attempt to fight gods who played the same games as our government played with the people.

[There ARE those who have pointed out that Enjolras would send strongly worded missives to God, railing against him if such were possible, and if Enjolras believed in one, so it would not be the first time the idea has been brought up to him.]

I doubt that I would win perhaps, with gods, instead of men, but it would seem we MUST be upset and angry if we wish to even try to change such things. It would seem we must find ways to fight them if we wish a just existence in any world.

[Through all of this, Enjolras has not raised his voice, and he still appears to be calm, save for something in his gaze that's rooted on the barricade still.]

That is why being brought here, despite the good things I have found must remain mixed for me, I think. And I do not think that the Empress, or the others here are inherently more powerful than we are at a stretch. It is said that the God many believe in where I come from has eyes even for the sparrow, so he must have them for men.

It is hard to conceive of gods that truly think of men as insects, but in any case, surely other men can band together to chance being thought of as men. Even in a failed attempt where they are...squashed [And there's a tiny hint of an ironic smile there.], it is far better that they tried it, yes?

At any rate, more self determination here is needed in whatever form that takes. Any part of it is a start.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-15 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
There ARE ways and steps to take here, to make a few things better, and to work for larger ones. I dare say we can hardly overthrow an empire as foreigners just now, but we can begin to make life better. It is not as it once was, in the days of the rationing but the empress here is still keeping her secrets, still engineering our arrivals and people still appear and disappear with little warning.

[Grantaire, Marius's Cosette, Daahd, The list is starting to grow the more time Enjolras is here.]

I do not entirely trust that things are not being kept from us for one, as it comes to the way we're chosen to come here, to other things that I know have been kept from us, and the nature of...we were told that we've been brought here to stand against a dark being, but have so little information on anything here.

Have you noticed that they tell us, all the time, that things we ask are the business of the Empress? What if those things they are not saying are the things that may help us here, or are the answers to things we might do to help ourselves? Sometimes one may get into the libraries but even those are guarded still...

There is much that we can do now without leading directly into things that will harm the population, I expect. I would throw myself into a greater risk this moment, but I would not do the same or inflict those same consequences on anyone who was not able to determine for themselves if if was right for them to do so. If we are careful, we might have that determination, yes.

A group of us, from my home, will be having a meeting soon, to focus on such things. If you would like to be a part of it, I will pass on that information when we've found the time and place.

You are right when you speak of kings as foolish men. Kings and their class as a whole. Content to let the people fight their battles for them and to sacrifice said people...at least in my experience of them. The generals though, and the soldiers...it's very rare that they do not follow the bidding of the kings because they're given little other choice. Very rare, but we had one who stood with the people instead, who championed their rights, and spoke against the king's regime he'd been promoted to defend.

He understood, because he'd seen it, as you say. I do agree the generals have seen much more of life. It comes to what they choose to do with it, I think, but surely there is a better chance with them than the others.

I do not know that that God exists, truly. I've seen no evidence for such but even so, the prospect is far better than your world's.

But there are ways here to make things better, and I know that. They will need to be smaller, yes, than I have known, but small changes do build. If you are interested to know more...that is why I am here.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-16 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed. If we are meant to be kept off guard by whatever force is bringing us here, whether it is Empire sanctioned or not, I suppose that letting us know so that we might make plans IS far too much.

[He should make plans, he thinks, absently. Just in case of anything. He does not intend to vanish entirely again, but even so. His effects, the things along those lines... Enjolras makes a mental note to fill Combeferre in on what to do with those, as unsettling as discussing it IS.

It is less unsettling than the matter of that death though.]


Man is born free and everywhere he is in chains. Someone who I admire greatly said as such. I would have hoped it was a matter of our world alone, that we might work to eliminate those chains as his work proposed, but it seems that the chains here are, though invisible, much more tangible indeed.

And yes, complacency that we will be content in repeating the cycle for eternity perhaps. The longer we grow used to it, the more we fuel the future generations for the same...There ARE some children here. I fear what they are learning from this.

Indeed, they learn they have no choice, as some others do now. For those who are not able to try taking or making it, those of us who have the chance to stand up, should.

[Ah, opening his heart to darkness...Enjolras knows of that moment too well. He stepped up and he did so because it was necessary, every time, in the service of something greater than his soul, but it has taken much for him to regain such, especially after his reminder a few months ago.]

I do not think that my cause lost its light, nor that my friends who stood for it were crushed by shadows when we died, but they did sacrifice for it, certainly. There are more things to be crushed than the body and we did not find those dying with us. Though yes, one must be careful.

[Saint-Just again, he thinks, his finger going to his earring which he touches, briefly, to remind him that while taking the man's wisdom and his spirit as an inspiration, he comes ever too close to his follies as well. That is why he has and needs les amis now, and any others who can keep him grounded now.

And ah, he ought to introduce himself.]


My name is Enjolras. I do not think I said before. I will do what I must here, as I can.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-17 07:05 am (UTC)(link)

I suppose that you are right at that. [Enjolras is nodding there, at Yaha's words.] When we forge our own links to each other, it is no less a chain, perhaps, but the difference there would be that everyone is linked together, rather than tied down. When we control those chains by willingly linking up, instead of being yoked by another, then the greater power becomes shared. It would seem that that sort of chain, one bonding man to other men, considered equal in all ways is necessary for survival but also not so much an evil as some others. I would hope to choose that chain someday.

Humanity...[And then he's glancing at Yaha and noting the ears and pausing.] In the most general sense of that, I do not have a better term for it than that IS constantly surprising. I do hope that the surprises that come forth are beneficial.

It is good to meet someone willing to discuss such things, indeed. Argument and agreement I can find easily enough, but going about it from this vantage point is better. It is good to meet someone who seemingly agrees.

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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-18 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
[Yeah, not so much with the neckbreaking bits for Enjolras, thanks. He would be uncomfortable if that was brought up yet. Not that he would not find something suitable to do to someone who betrayed his brothers or the cause but it would probably be less brutal than that in the end. Metaphorical neckbreaking perhaps, but physically, he'd choose something more like a gunshot. Simpler, in the end, really.

But for the moment, he takes that as a simple agreement and that is good enough.]


True enough. There can be fortunate ones as well. Some of my own were such surprises.

And yes. I do not ask that people would blindly agree but that there is less of a struggle to convince them...Well, it may be that I've grown a bit complacent since I've come here,

[And Enjolras is shrugging a little bit with that.]

but I always did prefer discussions as opposed to...screaming debates perhaps?
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-18 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Indeed coming here. Some parts of it have been a blessing in disguise, though the principle is still uncomfortable.

[And many of the political particulars as well but...]

I would be dead if I had not come here so in my case, the surprises have been a bit better than if I had simply been plucked here. It can be hard to remember that at times, when I know I am luckier than most. But still...

This quite! [Enjolras is nodding there.] My friends and I...so many of our early meetings found themselves ended on that note. And even myself when I was too young to know better.

[Ah the years of the lycée and that first semester at the law school when Enjolras still thought that shouting was a way to get his point across. It was better for everyone when he met those who calmed him down, really.]

Reason is more fitting in most things now, I should think.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-18 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
But still it is wrong for so many. I would not be so selfish as to presume that my own happiness is any reason to rest when that of others is at stake. Not only happiness, of course, though that is the term most people use but...

[Enjolras is pausing for a moment, gathering his thoughts a little more.]

Liberty I suppose. The issue of determination over their own lives. If others have no satisfaction that something has been chosen for them, do I have a right to sit back simply because I have a large enough measure of the things I wish to be content in them?

[The knowledge that France has become a republic, many of his friends here now, Combeferre, the end to some of the unfairness directed at Foreigners when he arrived...they make Enjolras happy enough but the thought of those who are here and do not wish to be...]

The prison of this island may be comfortable, more comfortable than even those of us with money would have had in Paris, but it is still a prison for so many. That is what gives me pause before I say I like it here. What sort of a man would I be to ever like something that all of my fellow foreigners have had no choice in? I would never wish to be such a thing as to comfortably accept it at face value when there are so many realities involved here.

[Enjolras is shaking his head a bit, and laughing.]

I was...fourteen I think, when I had the cause to shift from quiet into something more. I discovered the writings of so many I admired and the things that they spoke of, I found that I agreed with them, found answers to the questions I had wished to ask, solutions for them and...I had to share them, particularly with those who would have held them back. The last few years of school were...interesting.

I could have well done with more quiet in those years, I think. My teachers and my parents would well have appreciated it.

Reason must temper everything we do, and yes, it surely IS a light to those who struggle in the dark, or with succumbing to it. Reason would have served me better then as it's served me since it was shown to me back then.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-20 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
If they are returned someday, then yes. I do see your point as such. Sometimes the perspective is something needed I suppose.

he may not like it, but Enjolas can conceive that the point is not as bad as all of that. AS for the second point...Well. he's slowly giving Yaha an approving nod if that means anything.]

Helping naturally, yes. As many here have done when the call goes out.We are not so powerless as we appear. That may be something of a useful lesson too. And there ARE many good things to make it at least bearable, I will say that.

Fundamentally, it is flawed, and I think we must do many things ourselves to shift THAT away but there are things that...they make it easier, I suppose, and yes, they teach us things.

[And Enjolras is actually laughing a little here, recalling times he was essentially told that yes, everyone would appreciate if he shut up. Which he rarely did for long. And he is nodding.]

So it is much better, yes. It never was my greatest strength, but I was confident enough by the time it was needed that I think very few people realized it. I do well enough speaking but...

[And he IS simply being honest here, not trying for conceited at all.]

My articles and other writings. Those are where my true strengths may be found if I am allowed to be so bold. But no, I am not afraid to say what must be. I have seen too many silenced as you say, to be one who falls into that, or forgets to help them remember their voices too.

[As for being the light? Enjolras can hardly believe that he was asked this question, honestly. It is at once flattering, but deeply, deeply, inaccurate.]

I am a man, much like my brothers, and I am no more than that. That light you speak of may be found in small parts all around us, and in the future, filling every chasm there is. When there is light, when that is real, no one shall be subject to pain, hunger or loss, nor forced to fight for anyone, for it will not be needed.

That light is already here among us, and one person cannot be as such. A group of them perhaps...

[There is an eyedart there, yes.]

a group of them may bring about some of that light, but never man himself. We are not gods, simply united in that common good, and when the rest of the world joins us, it can never go out again.

Better than simply being the light, I should suggest.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2013-09-21 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I know that one of them, the man I died with, faced a good deal of hardship when he was here with us. He was so ill, and sick, and badly used by the world and seemed to have little peace here. I know that it was better that he vanish when he did. It was not long after I came here. I would have liked to speak to him of many things but I know for his sake it is better he does not wake again. Perhaps some of the others too. Though I miss them, I wonder if it is not selfish to want them here, instead of at peace. It is something I wonder for, truly.

[They could be an easily replenished army, Enjolras supposes. The idea that they immediately bound back from death, and that it could go on forever comes to mind here and he hates it.]

Knowledge has a power. You would like my Etienne. I think he would agree with you. Along with teaching. He has ever been our teacher, and our guide to the wonders of the world we might otherwise miss. I think that he knows everything and would impart it if he could, perhaps to gift that power onto others.

[And then Yaha is speaking of his friend, so Enjolras is falling respectfully silent, considering that story of the general who seems so much like les amis that he has to like the man, although they have not met.]

Ah yes, a start. The smallest thing can spark a revolution, or a riot, or any other call for change. Perhaps there is something to be said for taking the first steps there, and I would do it gladly, but it is nothing I alone can do I suppose is my meaning. Starting things before we leave our worlds. That is good. It is needed, I think. Perhaps even here, though I've had no signs that it is necessary yet.

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