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Jacob Kane [ Cain ] ([personal profile] insertdadjoke) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2015-09-22 10:31 pm

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Hello, my name is Jacob Kane. [ It looks like Cain is in a kedanese shop somewhere. He waves for the camera, makes sure not to jostle the cup he has by his elbow. ] What I'm going to say is specifically meant for the foreigner population of Keeliai, but in the interest of transparency I'm bringing this up on the public network. There's no point in the suggestion at all if we do anything in secret. That said...

We need some sort of system. No, I'm not talking about government or laws or enforcement thereof, but any type of accountability we can agree to. With the current state of things, it's just not feasible for us to keep acting as individuals — whether or not we have anything aside from our status as non-natives in common, we are a group all on our own and I honestly believe we'd all benefit from having something put into place that would keep us from imploding and possibly taking innocents with us in the crossfire.

Now, at this point, all I really ask is that we discuss it. Ideas, suggestions, thoughts and feelings on the matter. Just to collate how we feel as a whole before maybe organizing a meeting in person to go over finer details. Even if you haven't been here long, or don't believe in the idea of a system, I would like to hear why so we can try to address any issues.

If nothing else, we'll all learn something from the exercise, right?
solo_patria: (canony: fighting)

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[personal profile] solo_patria 2015-09-23 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
[A fair enough point to some degree, but, Enjolras thinks, with a little stab of indignation flashing in his eyes, it was not as though they had much choice, now did they? Certainly, they had been asked about the final battle, but before that came about, there had been dozens of smaller fights, places where the Foreigners had stood up and played various parts to help in the war effort.

It would be different, he thinks, if they had marched in here with weapons, demanding the kedan step aside, for instance, let them handle thngs all at once. As it stands, though? Well.]


I was under the impression we had suffered through the war together and somewhere the fact was still appreciated enough that we might be considered somewhat closer to allies taking that in store.

[The answer is rather to the point as he looks back upon those months, the ones minus an Emperor of any kind, especially, when they were in the fight together and god forbid, before that.]

Then again, perhaps I missed the place where we made the choice to be here at some point before we were offered the chance to go home from the Dreaming. Or the chance where they supported that we sit here idle and leave things to them. After all, it was a busy time, perhaps I missed the place where we stopped being allies then.

[As far as history goes? Enjolras has to laugh in acknowledgement of that point, certainly enough.]

Ah, no disputes there. Too many things have passed through history uncounted and unacknowledged where they ought have been, not to mention people. Rather, the idea of a consensus among our current Foreigner Population, much less the thought that enough care is what I question. Still, the attempt is more than worthy, and perhaps I judge the newcomers too harshly now. The cloth does not make the monk, does it?

[He nods in return, not deterred himself, although he does worry that it will come to nothing. Still, even having the chance to speak about this, and their chances...Enjolras won't deny that it feels GOOD somewhere.]

Your goals are worth attempting, all the same. I will gladly be there.
Edited 2015-09-23 23:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2015-09-25 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
[Personal, indeed. Nothing that he'd bring up in something like a meeting, probably, but Enjolras would point out that, well, none of them chose to be put into this position as seems to be implied here. It's more a reminder and frustration that he might as well try to deal with, but probably on his own terms. Of course, the kedan don't owe them anything, but the idea that a foreigner who was here for the worst of it seems to think that they... Well, never mind.]

I suppose not, no. There is</> nothing to be done here is there? They've their world, fair and square and we've got no real part in it. As it should be, after all that.

[Enjolras, before he'd found fencing again, and his balancing accounts at the dojo, had assumed he would spend the rest of eternity waiting to die in between shifts at the Welcome Center. He still somewhat assumes the same, but there is distraction now. If someone thinks that there's a chance at more, better to hear him out.]

We are not at that. If you have ideas for what we may do here, the least that I can do is listen. I only mean to say that this is not...none of us want to be here. If you think that can change... I'd like to hear.
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[personal profile] solo_patria 2015-09-27 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
They cannot claim it, exactly, but by rights, I think that it is meant to be theirs, given what they have been through, and who held it for them before.

[Enjolras frowns a bit, idly tugging at an earring as he considers what is being said here.]

And you suppose that it might work? That they will allow us so much as that?

[Personally, he somewhat doubts the fact, imagining angry Family Heads and Snakes and all the rest converging.]

I do not like it, that we have no rights here, please do not mistake me for that monsieur , I simply wonder at the idea..you propose a union that you think may help our standing here? You realize it is already fairly low. It has been worse, of course, but there will be difficulty in establishing such a thing as this. Do you think enough here are prepared to weather that storm?

[And is there any chance of success? He wonders, but he doesn't speak the thought. There was a time when Enjolras would have pushed for this as hard as anyone, but now... Now he is inclined to caution, and, while he does not doubt that things SHOULD be different, that the Foreigners should have a presence, he doubts very much that they'll do it in such a way as to make a difference.]

You may see very little, or no gain. Let us hope that it does not come to it, but that possibility is...we must face that idea. Are you prepared to watch it die before you, if you must? It is not an easy thing to watch the future you envisioned come to ruins around you, harder still to rise again.

[But then, he's French. He's seen that happening near daily.]

At least you mean to try. [The words are softly spoken at last, with a tiny bit of a nod and an awkward sort of pause, while he considers what else to say here, in light of all of this. He's gone on too much for one meeting, perhaps.]

...Sorry, I do not mean to break your ears. I suppose that nothing ventured does result in nothing gained. Should you still have me, I will come.

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[personal profile] solo_patria 2015-09-29 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
[Largely speculation, quite more assumption than that, honestly, but Enjolras has always been fantastic at the latter when the mood strikes him, and while he does not WANT for this to fail, he's simply seen too many attempts at things coming and going through his life to throw himself into it as wholeheartedly as he might have three years ago. Still, he is allowing for a smile now, the hint of one, at least, usually as much as he gives these days.

If this were Paris, if the people here were similar, then perhaps...

But maybe that's why it could work. He can reason a meeting or two, anyway, and a wasted few hours isn't awful compared to what could come about.]


If this should work, it would serve all of us well. Fair enough.