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Spencer Reid ([personal profile] polyhistor) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2013-02-06 08:10 am

[video || cafe post || action?]

[Reid hates technology. No, he really, genuinely does. Computers don't move fast enough to keep up with him, and he has a long-established love of hard copies where literature is concerned. But the fact of the matter is, there are very few books here. So here he is, seated at a console, half a dozen of the local books he could find stacked beside him and several empty coffee cups as well. Recently, he's taken to drinking green tea, but a lapse in that particular habit seems appropriate considering his surroundings.]

 You know, the terminology relating to a meta or 'multiverse' was originally coined by William James, a philosopher and psychologist in the late nineteen hundreds. His paper, titled 'Is Life Worth Living?' was published in the 1985 October Edition of the International Journal of Ethics. He postulated that, with the decline of social religion all 'visible' nature (that is to say, everything we see and experience) is in and of itself a 'moral' multiverse as opposed to being a moral 'universe'. He was referring to the visible nature of the world - good existing alongside evil, with every imaginable shade in between. Each nuance of the world then became in and of itself a 'multiverse' in James' ideal.

 The neologism didn't actually enter into common vernacular until much later and under a drastically different context, but the concept of other worlds or parallel universes - what we today call a 'multiverse' - has actually been around for centuries, generally tied to religious philosophies of the time. Muslim theologian al-Ghazālī believed that it was not only possible but highly probable. His extrapolation was that that Earth was the best of all possible worlds and that humans occupied it as a form of divine right, stating that 'there is in possibility nothing more wondrous than what is'.

[a brief pause, because... he's generally not used to speaking so long without interruption.]

 Essentially, the concept of a 'life, death or dreaming' state faintly echoes several Buddhist or Hindu philosophies, though equally suggestive of liminality. The continual repetition of that 'life/death/dreaming' theme represents a trinity; three is often considered a holy number in any number of doctrines. Three also represents the body (life), the soul (death) and the spirit (dreaming). And then, the fact that there are five districts also reinforces the ties to numerology. If you go by the numerical value of the Hebrew letter 'He' or 'five' it symbolizes the universal life, the breath of man, the air, the spirit and the soul.

 Oh-- right, liminality. Liminality was another word coined in the same philosophical era as William James' 'multiverse' by Arnold Vann Gennep in his 1908 paper Rites de Passage. It's from the Latin līmen which means 'threshold' and it's a word used to describe the transitionary phase during a ritualistic transformation, during which the participant's own identity is considered to be void until the process is complete and the individual can be reborn. It's almost a contract – during this process you forsake your identity, your sense of self, your titles and earthly possessions all for the sake of a form of theoretical transcendental enlightenment. It's this fluidity of self that enables change and dissolution of old habits or customs to make way for the new. It's not limited to an individual, either; it can be applied to groups of people – such as a graduating highschool class – or to societies and cultures as a whole and I believe it's what we're technically undergoing now.

 Liminality is considered a tripartite structure, and each segment of that structure is as follows: preliminal rites, or rites of separation. This stage involves a metaphorical 'death' undergone by the initiand. They're essentially forced to leave something behind by breaking away from previous practices and routines, or by, say, coming to Keeliai.

 The liminal rites – or transitionary rites – involve the creation of a sort of... tabula rasa, a blank slate, through the removal of limits and forms previously taken for granted. There are two primary characteristics to this stage of the rite, first: the rite 'must follow a strictly prescribed sequence, where everybody knows what to do and how'. Because this rite is a fundamental deconstruction of the self and self-held values, it's meant quite literally to mirror the act of walking over a threshold between two worlds.

 The postliminal rites, or 'rites of incorporation' are the third and final sequence. During this stage, the initiand is re-incorporated into society, essentially born again as a 'new' being.

[CRICKETS. CRICKETS ARE CHIRPING IN THE BACKGROUND, REID. He awkwardly clears his throat.]

 All... right so... um, hi. I'm Doctor Spencer Reid. Any questions...?

[for those of you who didn't turn the console off ten seconds into his impromptu lecture??


 ooc; also: a permissions post.]
demon_brat: (Little Wayne soft (Dami))

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[personal profile] demon_brat 2013-02-06 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So where does analysis fall, in that structure?

[Damian likes this one. Actually likes him. He didn't make an unprepared, uneducated blurt out to the network, and the statement - long as it is - is reasonable, and sheds interesting light on the situation, here.]

And which stage of this place is the one where everybody knows what to do at?
controlledvariable: (Civvies -- Are you sure about that?)

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[personal profile] controlledvariable 2013-02-06 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
[Once a day she heads to a console cafe to check if there are any posts that need a response from Batgirl, and she happens to be curled up in front of one of the consoles when Reid comes in. She pays a little more attention than she usually would, because she doesn't recognise him, but the last couple weeks have left her a little reluctant for, well, people, so she doesn't say anything at first.

So she's half listening in on the impromptu lecture, her expression growing more and more bemused by the second. After he's finally finished - and she waits a few extra seconds to make sure he really is done - she picks up her coffee, wanders over, and casually sits down in the seat beside him.]


What on Earth are you a doctor of?

[After all that, she's curious.]
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[personal profile] wilsooon 2013-02-06 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
[Holy shit, Reid, you're like a high-octane version of Felicity.]

Did I sign up for a web seminar? That wasn't in the kidnapping terms and conditions.
Edited 2013-02-06 15:41 (UTC)
storm_warning: (Classy lady)

video; tony must wait for RESEARCH

[personal profile] storm_warning 2013-02-06 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[Ororo puts up her hand, though the action is more sarcasm than sincere.]

When'd I die and go to college hell?

[Because this sure sounds like a lecture.]
Edited (phrasing) 2013-02-06 15:52 (UTC)
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[personal profile] controlledvariable 2013-02-06 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
[She waves back, despite the oddness of the gesture when she's already started taking. Possibly she should've introduced herself and said hello, but that's boring.

At his answer, her eyebrows go up.]


And philosophy? Or is that just something you dabble in?

[Sir what are you.]
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[personal profile] wilsooon 2013-02-06 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oliver. [There's a note of implacability in the name.] I'm not 'mister' anything.
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[personal profile] demon_brat 2013-02-06 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
[Slow nod.] That is logical. Not very helpful for planning of actions, but logical.

And that is provided her information is reliable. It is illogical to bring people in to help and leave them blind - and it has been suggested that what she can reveal may be limited. Which makes its truthfulness also suspect.

[Head-tilt.]

Would that make the people who have disappeared again, sometimes reappearing from a later point, people who have failed the rites? Since some of those disappearances do not seem to imply any sort of - completion.

[Beat. Oh, right.]

... Damian Wayne.
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[personal profile] controlledvariable 2013-02-06 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I never would have guessed. [Sarcasm is everyone's best friend, though she says it with a smile]

How new are you, Dr. Reid? And should I be telling the waiter to stop giving you caffeine?

[With her original question answered, she takes a moment to properly look him over; he doesn't seem like much (and she kind of wants to order him a sandwich or something he's so skinny) but the gun is curious, and while she doesn't tense when she notices it, she's not quite as relaxed as she was a second ago.

He seems harmless, but he's smart and armed, and that can be a potentially dangerous combination.]
Edited 2013-02-06 16:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] virginprice 2013-02-06 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Alcuin listens with interest to the whole lecture, chin resting on his hand as he absorbs the complicated concepts. He is not just a pretty face, after all.]

You've thought a great deal about this, Doctor Reid. Have you been here long?

[aka the mun is sick and not up to academic discussions]
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[personal profile] virginprice 2013-02-06 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Are those some of the books you were speaking of? James? I should enjoy reading them, I think.

[Philosophy is right up his alley, bring it on.]
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[personal profile] wilsooon 2013-02-06 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[...Seriously tho are all smart people like Reid and Felicity.] Did you run out words?
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[personal profile] virginprice 2013-02-06 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Could you? I would hate to put you to any inconvenience. [But he isn't questioning the possibility of it. He has an excellent memory as well.]

Did you find anything interesting in what the locals had to say?
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[personal profile] controlledvariable 2013-02-06 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's counting. Somehow that doesn't surprise her either.]

Yeah that counts as new. Welcome to Keeliai, sorry about the kidnapping.

[She considers making a comment about the caffeine, but then he mentions that he's in the FBI and for all that it seems natural, she figures he saw her looking. Why else would he bring it up at exactly that point in the conversation?]

Behavioural Analysis Unit, right?

[She probably should have feigned ignorance, but her pride required otherwise.]
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[personal profile] wilsooon 2013-02-06 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
[A small bout of near-silent laughter. This is the most at home he's felt in two days, which makes him realize with a hidden jolt that he misses Felicity, too.] What I want is to go home. If you've got a line on how to do it, by all means keep talking.

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