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Spencer Reid ([personal profile] polyhistor) wrote in [community profile] tushanshu2013-02-06 08:10 am

[video || cafe post || action?]

[Reid hates technology. No, he really, genuinely does. Computers don't move fast enough to keep up with him, and he has a long-established love of hard copies where literature is concerned. But the fact of the matter is, there are very few books here. So here he is, seated at a console, half a dozen of the local books he could find stacked beside him and several empty coffee cups as well. Recently, he's taken to drinking green tea, but a lapse in that particular habit seems appropriate considering his surroundings.]

 You know, the terminology relating to a meta or 'multiverse' was originally coined by William James, a philosopher and psychologist in the late nineteen hundreds. His paper, titled 'Is Life Worth Living?' was published in the 1985 October Edition of the International Journal of Ethics. He postulated that, with the decline of social religion all 'visible' nature (that is to say, everything we see and experience) is in and of itself a 'moral' multiverse as opposed to being a moral 'universe'. He was referring to the visible nature of the world - good existing alongside evil, with every imaginable shade in between. Each nuance of the world then became in and of itself a 'multiverse' in James' ideal.

 The neologism didn't actually enter into common vernacular until much later and under a drastically different context, but the concept of other worlds or parallel universes - what we today call a 'multiverse' - has actually been around for centuries, generally tied to religious philosophies of the time. Muslim theologian al-Ghazālī believed that it was not only possible but highly probable. His extrapolation was that that Earth was the best of all possible worlds and that humans occupied it as a form of divine right, stating that 'there is in possibility nothing more wondrous than what is'.

[a brief pause, because... he's generally not used to speaking so long without interruption.]

 Essentially, the concept of a 'life, death or dreaming' state faintly echoes several Buddhist or Hindu philosophies, though equally suggestive of liminality. The continual repetition of that 'life/death/dreaming' theme represents a trinity; three is often considered a holy number in any number of doctrines. Three also represents the body (life), the soul (death) and the spirit (dreaming). And then, the fact that there are five districts also reinforces the ties to numerology. If you go by the numerical value of the Hebrew letter 'He' or 'five' it symbolizes the universal life, the breath of man, the air, the spirit and the soul.

 Oh-- right, liminality. Liminality was another word coined in the same philosophical era as William James' 'multiverse' by Arnold Vann Gennep in his 1908 paper Rites de Passage. It's from the Latin līmen which means 'threshold' and it's a word used to describe the transitionary phase during a ritualistic transformation, during which the participant's own identity is considered to be void until the process is complete and the individual can be reborn. It's almost a contract – during this process you forsake your identity, your sense of self, your titles and earthly possessions all for the sake of a form of theoretical transcendental enlightenment. It's this fluidity of self that enables change and dissolution of old habits or customs to make way for the new. It's not limited to an individual, either; it can be applied to groups of people – such as a graduating highschool class – or to societies and cultures as a whole and I believe it's what we're technically undergoing now.

 Liminality is considered a tripartite structure, and each segment of that structure is as follows: preliminal rites, or rites of separation. This stage involves a metaphorical 'death' undergone by the initiand. They're essentially forced to leave something behind by breaking away from previous practices and routines, or by, say, coming to Keeliai.

 The liminal rites – or transitionary rites – involve the creation of a sort of... tabula rasa, a blank slate, through the removal of limits and forms previously taken for granted. There are two primary characteristics to this stage of the rite, first: the rite 'must follow a strictly prescribed sequence, where everybody knows what to do and how'. Because this rite is a fundamental deconstruction of the self and self-held values, it's meant quite literally to mirror the act of walking over a threshold between two worlds.

 The postliminal rites, or 'rites of incorporation' are the third and final sequence. During this stage, the initiand is re-incorporated into society, essentially born again as a 'new' being.

[CRICKETS. CRICKETS ARE CHIRPING IN THE BACKGROUND, REID. He awkwardly clears his throat.]

 All... right so... um, hi. I'm Doctor Spencer Reid. Any questions...?

[for those of you who didn't turn the console off ten seconds into his impromptu lecture??


 ooc; also: a permissions post.]
idealisme: (Notre sillon à labourer)

Video;

[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-06 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
[Enjolras listens intently, and even plays the recording again once it is done as he's not altogether familiar with some of the words or concepts here. He's curious as to what time this man is from, but first he has a question-]

In regards to liminality, excepting our present circumstances, is the forsaking of identity and possession a literal undertaking or a metaphorical one? I do not believe anything can be denied in reality if it is not cast aside for good.
idealisme: (Et changer la vie)

[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-07 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
I see. [Primarily metaphorical = primarily useless in his mind. Action is required to instigate change, whether within oneself or without.

And while Enjolras can respect knowledge, he's not particularly enthused in by the theory behind where they are. Reality itself is his concern, not it's philosophy.]


To summarise your points then- Our present situation, then, mirrors some aspects of scientific thought and some aspects of religious thought but there is no vein of thought which you aware of which is entirely similar.
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[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-07 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
[A wry, thoughtful expression crosses his face. How hard it is for the purity of the ideal to be transferred into reality.] You have the right of it.

I thank you, for your insight into our situation, Monsieur Reid. The philosophy of such things is not one I favour, though you may be accosted by a compatriot of mine by the name of Combeferre seeking to pick your brain for further knowledge.
idealisme: (Il faut gagner à la guerre)

[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-09 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
[His estimation of this scholar continues to rise. Knowledge freely shared is a passion of his, something he had hoped would become a reality in their Republic.]

That is correct. Myself, Combeferre and Prouvaire. We were members of 'the Friends of the ABC'; that is to say, the oppressed, the people.

We fought and- and died fighting the July Monarchy by each other's sides.
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[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-10 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Do not be, monsieur. It would have been worse to live and accept the unrighteous rule of the Monarchy.

Our deaths will serve to remind the rest of France that there are better things than the weak rule of Kings, and that they are worth dying for.

[JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NIGHTMARES AND THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE KICKS IN HARD, BRO.]
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[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-12 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
[There is a pause for deep thought.]

I do not yet know. There is first the matter of our presences here; the Empress has no right to bring us here. Second, the matter of the people; they should have the ability to rule themselves. Both of these matters, and others which will arise, will require more context before appropriate decisions can be made.

[His tone of voice implies that he feels quite impatient about this. He would rather cut straight to the heart of the matter and overthrow the Empress, personally.]
idealisme: (Et à demain; ami fidèle)

[personal profile] idealisme 2013-02-15 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
[This is a reaction Enjolras is well used to. How many has he seen turn aside or avoid him while he speaks to the people, out of a fear that they too might be branded 'Revolutionary'? It is cowardice, and Enjolras is surprised to find it in this man.

His tone hardens.]


I shall, M. Reid. I thank you, again, for sharing your knowledge.